Benzy wrote:
1. The center of the AO is not far away or in a reconnaissance position.
2. BPT providing assistance is perfectly fine in my mind however spearheading an attack on a flank alone is not supporting, it is leading. The grad fire while dangerous caused next to zero casualty's and the presence of it and and a landed air troop (Which we had an F18 plus MANPADs support from 2-1 FSG to deal with anyway) is in no way an indication for a lone recon squad to launch an assault on an enemy held airbase before the supporting sections were in position to help. 2-1 did not get in a position to cover the attack until around 5 minutes after BPT had started launching NLAW's at the enemy MLRS. This is not saying that BPTs actions during the OP were wrong, if i were in Company CO or BPT lead relocating to observe the enemy battery was precisely the right choice given the threat offered to the rest of the Company and even in retrospect i would maintain that view.
EDIT: I feel the need to add this mostly for Joel and the BPT members on the OP on Sunday, i tried to keep this point short since this is not the OP feedback thread but it just seems to have made it a bit imbalanced towards your actions i am not critiquing the commands or actions of BPT on the night as without having been in coms or in the squad i would simply not have a clear enough perspective on what choices they made and scenarios they were put threw this was more of a "What if" example than shaming any play, please take this into account when replying apologies if it sounded like i was attacking the squad.
3. "Hench wrote:
I think the above marines' posts have been wasted here and could have been better used providing some positive reinforcement to Neeter, Deejay, TaG and Scyllos who possess the patience and skills, desperately needed by 3CB to operate an effective Brigade Patrol Troop. I hope the RMs and operation co-ordinators have taken note of this and will continue to provide more opportunities for them to further develop their skills and practice them.
Great work guys."
MeFirst and Frosty's post referenced far more than a specific incidence with one squad so naming four people is irrelevant to the overall actions that they are talking about. They are mentioning what an average response the BPT section is from the average person playing it which cannot be excluded by mentioning four players then pretending there is not an issue. If 3CB is to operate an effective BPT then we need to make sure there are not idiots filling the slots and sprinting around with 50'caliber rifles taking on an entire Motor Rifle Brigade by themselves, they are highlighting a legitimate complaint that often arises around units that tend to have more leeway in their operational movements whether in this instance BPT, Reconnaissance units, Sniper squads or what be it. Its a valid point that while most members of 3CB are responsible enough and compliantly using the freedom of movement and command associated with this type of squad to play within the confines of the role but on a public server where people often play more lax its often seen as an excuse to goof off and launch single squad assaults.
NOTE: please realize this is not an attack on any player or group of them playing BPT recently or not but when you help regulate a public server for two years you just learn certain patterns with some units, this above point is not alluding to recent play on the public server that i have seen.
To have "an effective Brigade Patrol Troop" we need to have the right attitude fostered about the method of play you should be using while playing in these slots, this means having players which stick with other squads as a support element and not playing as lone wolves which is simply not the behavior witnessed by far more than two marines.
Pretty muchg summs it up.
Maybe we could have some kind of recon training in the future.
