3 Commando Brigade

3CB Weapon Pack - Feedback and Bug Reports

Thought it would be good to have a thread, where people can post their feedback about the 3CB Weapon Pack.

I have to say I am very impressed so far. Not only by the numbers of weapons we got in the pack but also the overall quality. There are a lot if nice little details, like the case ejection and the moving belts on the machine guns etc.

The only slighly negative thing I have noticed it that when you put a 3CB Scope on the new L85's it does take away a lot of your screen in first person. Not sure if this was intended, or is one of the things that might get improved in later versions.

I have only tested the guns for a few minutes in the arsenal and the LMG for about 1 1/2 hour on the public server. So far I cant report any new bugs or problems.

The amount of screen real-estate used by the scope is largely unavoidable, due to geometry.  The 3D scopes are implemented by magnifying the entire screen, then positioning your eye to look through the actual model of the scope on the rifle (If you look inside the scopes you can see the reticles).  The further back from the scope your eye, the less screen real-estate used by the scope.  Unfortunately we're right on the limit, any further back and you get clipping issues with other equipment you're wearing.

Also the higher the magnification, the larger the image of the 3D scope on screen.

2D scopes are implemented completely differently and do not suffer this problem.  However, for balance, we've set them to be a similar size on screen to the 3D scopes.

Also remember there is a reason why reflex sights exist; standard scopes do restrict your field of view.


We have implemented different muzzle velocities for all the weapons.  This change ensures that the L22, L85 and L86 all have different characteristics despite using the same ammo.  This added realism causes an issue with the scopes.  The scopes now have to be zero'd for individual weapons. So you need to match your scope to your weapon,  This is only really noticeable at medium-long range.    The scope description indicates the weapon it has been zero'd for,  Its why we have two TA648's, one for the L86 and the other for the L129.

Some really nice comments coming in...

Once ACE rolls around I'm sure we'll update to make use of their features. E.g. ACE will also introduce advanced ballistics with an option to define barrel-length's etc. 
As long as we can add them without having to add @ACE3 as a dependency we'll try to get as many as possible to work.

I did test it and firing two belts on full auto does make it jam.


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Since AGM will soon be deprecated, we'll move all barrel overheat functionality across to ACE, and do a proper test once there.  Thanks for spotting this, I'll added it to the TODO list

In terms of the camo variants, some images would be very useful.

Can you be specific as to which of the LDS scopes you've heard are inaccurate.  Is it possible they've been used on a weapon that is not an L85, as this is the only weapon that is accurate with that scope?

We're working on an LLM-01 with dual functionality, it just did not make it into the current release.  But it'll hopefully be there for v1.1

I'm not sure what you mean by the L131 sight picture not "sitting" right.  This is how the gun is sighted in the mod?



New animations are currently an issue for us, as we don't have an animator.  Now if anyone has character rigging experience, then please step forward

Thanks for this feedback.

Thanks for the images.  We might be able to make a camo'd version at some point during the re-texture pass.

In terms of the L131, I see your point.  When you aim the L131 in game you're actually looking along the top of the 3D model, so all sight components are correctly positioned.  

I'll reduce the diameter of the fore dot to give the impression of range, that might help.

Is it the muzzle heat haze - particle effect ?

ACE3 has an advanced ballistics feature that already integrates real-life climate data for e.g. Afghanistan/Pakistan (Takistan/FATA) into the bullet flight equations. I guess it wouldn't be a far stretch to extend that to the jamming system.
(Disclaimer: It seems like the advanced ballistics thing will be quite the performance hog in multiplayer so it probably won't be enabled on our servers/missions [we'll see once it's finally released].
Long-range sniping isn't a big part of our gameplay so it'd be of limited use anyway)