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Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 8:09 am     Super secret spam barrier
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Read something which shocked me the other day... The governments proposed plans to merge 3 commando with 16 para. This is apsolout madness I'm my opinion. I would like to know what other people think of this... Also if like me you want to stop this then there is petition going round... https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/209564

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Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 3:28 pm     Super secret spam barrier
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It was part of the govt. defence cuts. They proposed 3 options to save £ (below). Defence secretary Gavin Williamson deemed them unacceptable and rejected all three options, but now has to "find an alternative fix to the MoD funding crisis".

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Still not 100% going to happen, but there is always a chance. Let's hope it doesn't come to that and that the armed forces don't get gutted.


Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 4:04 pm     Super secret spam barrier
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Thanks for the full explanation, it would be such a shame especially looking at the amount of ships and helos the want to cut... :((

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Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 6:16 pm     Super secret spam barrier
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Jesus those would be some drastic cuts. That would wipe out our armed forces and turn us into a defence force. Let’s buy brand new wildcats and then scrap them!


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Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:22 pm     Super secret spam barrier
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Jesus those would be some drastic cuts. That would wipe out our armed forces and turn us into a defence force. Let’s buy brand new wildcats and then scrap them!


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We're already a defense force Andy, no two ways about it, the cuts since 2008 have seen to that, as of the 1st of october last year the full-time trained army strength stands at 82,040.
Navy/Marines at 29,280
the air force at 30,560

now those numbers don't include any reserves, commonwealth units etc. Total manpower for the UK is 195,730 (37k reserves, 8k other, 3k gurkas)
the change in numbers is worrying too, we're seeing more people leave services than join atm, hence the money spent on those new adverts, including the almost soviet looking propaganda animated ones (seriously wtf?)

In my view Trident should be removed from Military spending, i'm in two minds as to whether we even need it anymore tbh, what use is it even as a bargaining chip nowadays?
the money should then be spent on military recruitment, housing, and equipment. i mean £205bn is quite literally enough to raise 292 infantry batallions! that includes building new housing, training, equipment etc etc.
it's a staggering amount of money that could be better spent.

hah, 205bn would actually allow us to produce 48,612 challengers.
who needs infantry? we'll just TANK RUSH anybody who starts on us.


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I dunno. I think a Nuc deterrent right now is key to keeping put in in check. His last exercise. (Way bigger than anything NATO have ran since that lion thingy in ‘84) was simulated around a First strike using tactical nukes. Eek [emoji51]


Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2018 3:36 pm     Super secret spam barrier
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I see your point SJ about the nuc deteraint but to me it seems like a massive over spend on something we may never and hopefully will never have to use

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I see your point SJ about the nuc deteraint but to me it seems like a massive over spend on something we may never and hopefully will never have to use

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@BenFen, that's what I say to myself every time I renew my insurance policies. 


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'Have it and don't need it' vs 'need it and don't have it'. I know which one I prefer. Ask Ukraine if they now wish they'd hung onto the Soviet arsenal following the collapse rather than handing them all back to Russia. I think we know the answer.


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Though suggesting we rid of Trident, in itself, is mental. As others said above, it's better to have it and not need it, than need it and not have it. Not only does it effect us on a global military scale, but a political one, too. With Brexit so close, cutting Trident would make us the laughing stock of the world. Reasons why I don't need to explain, since I'm sure all of you know full well lol

It's good that these options have been thrown out the window, but the forces haven't jumped out the pot just yet. Still a big threat of having a significant cut. One I hope will never happen, but almost guaranteed to occur, sadly enough. 

Most of the cnuts in Whitehall need the sack, and Carter needs to be gone. He's not got enough of a spine to stand up to the politicians. Dumb enough to support that abysmal recruitment drive with the new advert, wasting £1.6 mil, when it should've been spent on a simple advert like the ones we got early 2000's, and putting funding into local recruitment offices! Spoken to a good bunch of lads who're thinking about joining the forces, but these new adverts have put them off completely, including the fear of the budget cuts. Had this been a couple years ago, I'd willingly tell them to join regardless. Now I've not the heart to do it, and I'm dead certain a few would make fantastic troops.

You'd think the party "For the troops" would actually care about them. Pathetic.

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