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Posted: Mon May 16, 2016 2:05 pm     Super secret spam barrier
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I guess we go into the fields of game philosophy here.

My "personal opinion" is that section members do not always need to know the complete and big picture. Communicating important and most importantly relevant information is down to the section commander and ftl in my book. Does a NLAW gunner in 1-1 need to know the pretty much exact location of 1-2 all the time? I personally rather have section members doing their job and let the people in the respecting command roles hare information over the radio when it is needed (watch out, we have 1-2 300m to our right etc.)


Posted: Mon May 16, 2016 2:15 pm     Super secret spam barrier
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Agreed, given the casual nature of our chain of command, giving everyone these tools will open us up to back-seat section leading and second guessing command

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Posted: Mon May 16, 2016 2:31 pm     Super secret spam barrier
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As I said, I guess its different take on game philosophy.

To me it is not the job of the NLAW gunner (for examples sake) to know where 1-2. is, He can either see them with his own eyes or he will get informed about it from his superiors when it is relevant. When it is not relevant he can (and should in my book) focus on staying with his section, covering the area he should cover and be in a state of readiness and attention. If you want to be involved with low, mid or high level command, everyine is pretty much free to take one of these roles un the public server and during private missions.


I personally dont think it has to be the exact same on the public server and during private operations, but some people already made the point that it should be close to each other so you can get some actual practice and dont form bad habits. When the "normal" soldier does not have access to the position of other elements, this requires some (but I think pretty small) practical adjustments. Those would be things like designating a certain location as a position if you for some reason loose complete contact with your section or any other friendly elements.  Meaning you cant see or hear any friendly troops and you can get no contact over the radio. This is pretty rare at least in private operations and this can be fixed by having a designated position for things like that. Those can also be locations that are already in use like a HLS and overwatch or command positions.


Posted: Mon May 16, 2016 3:59 pm     Super secret spam barrier
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clyde wrote:
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After the Op last night, I'd say all marines should get the most basic device. There was no way of knowing where other squads were as there are now no markers on the normal map, we couldn't put down contact reports, and if an SL or FTL was hit and unrecoverable, we could not coordinate anything.


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I think We may have to compromise to assist gameplay as Evrik suggests


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Your SL and FTL know where the other squads are, as the only ones on troop net they are really the only ones who should know that, unless you have a visual of them.

contact reports should be reported to your section so the SL or FTL can then record these if it needs to be done.

If the SL or FTL is hit and unrecoverable then pick up the tablet off their body? Same as when you take their long range if they're killed?

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I'm probably sticking my neck out here, but i think we as a group tend to have a bad habit of coming across a difficult situation in game and try to adjust the scenario to make it easier next time, rather that try to adapt ourselves to overcome it. 


Dave's right about this I think.


Yep.

Sometimes I think that a bit of restriction or focus can do some good. Maybe this will improve some areas of our gameplay in private operations, which have been pointed out as areas that could be improved in the future. Those are mainly things like communication and section movement. Maybe it will improve itself when there is more need for better communication etc.


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Posted: Mon May 16, 2016 4:03 pm     Super secret spam barrier
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clyde wrote:
If the SL or FTL is hit and unrecoverable then pick up the tablet off their body? Same as when you take their long range if they're killed?

My point was if the tablet can't be recovered, either because the body is in the open and under fire or the body disappears due to respawn / clean up.


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British army infantry regiments dont use blufor trackers, and I honestly doubt that even SL's and FTLs use them let alone everyone in the platoon.

HQ and command maybe, to keep track of air assets, but more than likely they use static images of friendly ground locations, and resort to the old way of Bowman communication and map grids. Imo I was fairly excited when this mod was coming to the repo, but holy s**t does it seem like easy mode. Completely takes away the reason to use a compass, map and rangefinding. For the one I used, anyway


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I'm probably sticking my neck out here, but i think we as a group tend to have a bad habit of coming across a difficult situation in game and try to adjust the scenario to make it easier next time, rather that try to adapt ourselves to overcome it.
This, so much. 


Posted: Mon May 16, 2016 5:07 pm     Super secret spam barrier
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Gents, just a reminder that the last thread on cTab was locked because people started making it personal.
Don't let that happen again.
You are free to make objective points about the use of cTab, but do so in a constructive and friendly manner. 


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Mefirst wrote:

The android can place salute markers, the microdagr on the other hand can not.
But does the microdagr display markers placed in ctab?

If so, that is the happy medium between both systems.
yes,from my testing it does.


Posted: Mon May 16, 2016 7:05 pm     Super secret spam barrier
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So if section members get microdagr they can see what is going on in ctab.
As everyone is issued with a gps anyway just swap it out for that.

That gives us the best of both worlds. FTL and above can update data but nobody is blind.

Anyone else agree?


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